Friday 15 June 2007

Homeland Security to approve All employment!


http://www.coffinman.co.uk/discussion_group/viewtopic.php?t=44
Submitted by Natasha Sat, 2007-05-26


US citizens who apply for a job, will need prior approval from Department of
Homeland Security, under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate
this week.

American Civil Liberties Union pointed out, that the DHS's Employment
Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued, and if the
department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be
virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the
bill's prohibitions on judicial review.

Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval, from the
DHS, within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.

"EEVS would be a financial and bureaucratic nightmare for both businesses
and workers," said Timothy Sparapani, ACLU Legislative Counsel.
"Under this already flawed program no one would be able to work
in the U.S. without DHS approval - creating a 'No Work List' similar to the
government's 'No Fly List.'
We need immigration reform, but not at
this cost."

The act allocates US$400 million for the implementation of the EEVS, but the
Congressional Budgeting Office estimates the system to cost in excess of a
billion dollars.



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Apparently even the ACLU gets it right sometimes.

It has been obvious, all along, that the new Immigration Bill is not about
controlling immigration. What is not so obvious, is that really, it is has
been about controlling us all along.

And you thought no fly lists were bad!

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Natasha



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a natural born US citizen, ..... --> YOU <--- will have no way to recover lost wages, if a mistake is made by the new DHS Employment Eligibility Verification System, ......... that could ban YOU from working.

It's like the 'no fly list', which thousands of US citizens have been wrongly placed on [for protesting etc.], except it is a NO WORK LIST, ....... and you wont be able to either keep your present job or get a new one.

The new immigration bill, has no provision for judicial review, of such EEVS 'Homeland Security no work list' "mistakes".

But "mistakes" like that wont happen, ....... right?


This new immigration law has big sharp teeth.

They are meant to bite us not illegal immigrants however.

Illegal immigrants will just continue to work under the table for less than minimum wage.

The poor immigrants are just being used by the NWO, to clamp down on all the rest of us, in addition to destabilizing our society.
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Natasha



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that Alex Jones has picked up this story now. If I had that website I would have made that THE lead story.

I guess, the big pneumonia scare and the new fake Al-Qaeda video, is just more important though.

Why clue the American people, about things they really need to know right NOW, when you can reinforce DOD MEDIA MILDEC PSYOPS and generate more senseless fear.

[counting down the time till my banning]

Don't forget this.

The Fourth Reich : The New World Order.

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/thefourthreich172250.html
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Natasha



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyborg moths and stuff? Why so many posts all of a sudden?

It really seems that all the 911 sites, including Alex 'INFOWARS' Jones, really DON'T want this story to get legs.

Well hmmmmmmmm ........

Now don't you be concerned about the new Homeland Security NO WORK LISTS, .... but those cyborg moths, ... well holy shit!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: So many posts? Reply with quote

When I can edit the website again the NO WORK LISTS will go on.
Until then this is where I am posting all new topics I come across.
The posting of one topic does not detract from the importance of another.
Also you have the freedom here to present topics that I have not.
I an glad that you posted the information, I just wish that more people would start to use this forum.
I have not promoted it though.
But cyborg moths are a part of their sick plans.
Some people would refuse to believe it, so the info is here.
I have posted your topic to 911researchers, the MAJOR 911 research site that has not yet been overtook by spooks:
http://www.911researchers.com/node/547
I credited the post to you.
Sign up and start speaking to the people you want to reach.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Coffinman.

I agree that the cyborg insect thing is real, and yes it really is something to take into consideration. I just think that we have a precious, and oh so fleeting, chance of delaying the inevitable implementation of some extremely dangerous new laws. We can't stop them from developing insidious new tech. However it is very helpful, to have some idea of what that tech is, and I honestly do value your intel on it.

Sorry to be a pain Coffinman. I am just so upset to see people being mislead by the phonies.

I am so glad you are here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

CNET News.com : Work bill would create new ID database


The U.S. Congress is poised to create a set of massive new government databases that all employers must use to investigate the immigration status of current and future employees or face stiff penalties.

The so-called Employment Eligibility Verification System would be established as part of a bill that senators began debating on Monday, a procedure that is likely to continue through June and would represent the most extensive rewrite of immigration and visa laws in a generation. Because anyone who fails a database check would be out of a job, the proposed database already has drawn comparisons with the "no-fly list" and is being criticized by civil libertarians and business groups.

All employers--at least 7 million, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce--would be required to verify identity documents provided by both existing employees and potential hires, the legislation says. The data, including Social Security numbers, would be provided to Homeland Security, on penalty of perjury, and the government databases would provide a work authorization confirmation within three business days.

There is no privacy requirement that the federal government delete the information after work authorization is given or denied. Employers would be required to keep all the documentation in paper or electronic form for seven years "and make it available for inspection by officers of the Department of Homeland Security" and the Department of Labor. It would also open up the IRS' databases of confidential taxpayer information to Homeland Security and its contractors.

Even parents who hire nannies might be covered. The language in the bill, called the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act (PDF), defines an employer as "any person or entity hiring, recruiting, or referring an individual for employment in the United States" and does not appear to explicitly exempt individuals or small businesses. (Its Senate sponsors did not immediately respond on Monday to queries on this point.)

"All the problems that are attendant to the no-fly list are going to be a problem for a nationwide employment eligibility verification system." --Timothy Sparapani, senior legislative counsel, ACLU

For the rest go here. http://news.com.com/Work+bill+would+create+new+ID+database/2100-1028_3-6185466.html?tag=st.num

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